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Dating a provider?

6Stringer

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You’re spot on about the money as a younger provider getting 200 plus for session is easily making 200-250 k tax free a year and isn’t saying goodbye to working for love.The older providers ( 45 plus) that are hustling could be willing to settle down if a monger has his own house and income north of a 100k as they understand their days of making serious money are winding down.
Totally agree, with one caveat: Older providers don't want to give up the money and often are looking to start their own businesses and hire younger girls. So even at 45, I wouldn't count on a "domestic" experience with any of these ladies if that's what you imagine. If you want to get into the business with her, than maybe that's cool, but most of us don't want the constant risk of legal issues hanging over our heads everyday and have family, friends or co-workers that we are already hiding the hobby from, let alone going into business. Like one guy here said, go find a real freaky girl at church...lol. Flirt, be friendly with, GFE, whatever with the providers, but resist all temptation for anything more and you'll be glad.
 

Vslick23

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Totally agree, with one caveat: Older providers don't want to give up the money and often are looking to start their own businesses and hire younger girls. So even at 45, I wouldn't count on a "domestic" experience with any of these ladies if that's what you imagine. If you want to get into the business with her, than maybe that's cool, but most of us don't want the constant risk of legal issues hanging over our heads everyday and have family, friends or co-workers that we are already hiding the hobby from, let alone going into business. Like one guy here said, go find a real freaky girl at church...lol. Flirt, be friendly with, GFE, whatever with the providers, but resist all temptation for anything more and you'll be glad.
Some pros get married and have normal lives. But yeah, some are relegated to this business for the rest of their lives and it’s all they know.
 

Lcg

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Same spa girl offers me 100k for marriage and a Porsche and then wants me to give her 3k a month to leave the spa life
Please make the following counter offer on my behalf. I accept the terms and conditions, but the last sentence has to be stricken from the final agreement.

I await her signed response.
 

backhurt88

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Wow what a response!! Yes, I clearly think you illustrate the downsides of being involved with a pro. Scary about the anchor baby and how many immigrants would do this. I guess the takeaway is that it’s ok to maybe hang out with one, but don’t get feelings involved.
Exactly. I would do this in my high school, college years, and 20s, “date” if only a one time friendly unharmful hangout. See what they are about and move on quick. Can’t get attached if only once. Not worth your while to continue doing it if you can’t picture a possible future, better cut strings fast unless you want a no strings attached but doesn’t exactly work it with these girls. That’s exactly why you pay, ...to avoid the headache. Why be involved and have the headache. It’s always best not to get too personal and keep it “business” only aka professional. Also, for me not being Chinese or Korean there’s a language and cultural barrier and I’m not exactly into learning to assimilate into their ways. It’s not worth it. It’s more of them wanting to hang out with an “American” and see if can be saved but more often than not they don’t want to, as they like their liberty and believe having a boyfriend will interfere.
 

backhurt88

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Please make the following counter offer on my behalf. I accept the terms and conditions, but the last sentence has to be stricken from the final agreement.

I await her signed response.
LOL, unless you can prove to her you make 10k a month, own multiple apartment buildings with no mortgages and live a care free life, don’t believe she’d bite. She also drives a brand new AMG, I jokingly asked for that instead, but wouldn’t bulge so the offer was on I could refuse. The Porsche wasn’t exactly a turbo either, nor manual. I’m picky.
 

Vslick23

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Exactly. I would do this in my high school, college years, and 20s, “date” if only a one time friendly unharmful hangout. See what they are about and move on quick. Can’t get attached if only once. Not worth your while to continue doing it if you can’t picture a possible future, better cut strings fast unless you want a no strings attached but doesn’t exactly work it with these girls. That’s exactly why you pay, ...to avoid the headache. Why be involved and have the headache. It’s always best not to get too personal and keep it “business” only aka professional. Also, for me not being Chinese or Korean there’s a language and cultural barrier and I’m not exactly into learning to assimilate into their ways. It’s not worth it. It’s more of them wanting to hang out with an “American” and see if can be saved but more often than not they don’t want to, as they like their liberty and believe having a boyfriend will interfere.
Do you mean to say in your younger days, you dated pros? Or are you referring to civvies? Yeah good point about the p4p aspect. Ya pay them to leave haha! On the one hand, pros are just normal girls, but they are also all extremely money hungry, which is not great for personal relationships.
 

backhurt88

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On a more serious note, it’s easy...simply ask after a session. Some say “yes”, others “no”. It’s a numbers game like anything else. And more are willing enough to give you their numbers or WeChat as to them they could be seriously interested or simply want to add you to their cliente database, ...only time will tell from there.
 

Vslick23

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On a more serious note, it’s easy...simply ask after a session. Some say “yes”, others “no”. It’s a numbers game like anything else. And more are willing enough to give you their numbers or WeChat as to them they could be seriously interested or simply want to add you to their cliente database, ...only time will tell from there.
True, you got nothing to lose. And it’s not enough of an offense to get you blacklisted if they say no. Just don’t want to make anyone feel uncomfortable.
 

luvjackshack

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Prefer not to say. She left the establishment, an actual well known store front and apparently is “back in Korea”, according to whatever they call the old lady who runs the joint...and herself as I texted her once and she lied saying that and a few months pass, and I decided for shits and giggles to call and she was in “Korea” when she answered but when I said I’ll see you now, she said really and gave me address...she gave me the location, basically an apartment setup and I went to see her. Selective. I paid an hour, I was there an hour and a half. She proceeded to show me pictures of her 5 year old son and tell me she knows this job is no good but good money and she has “goals”. And how she was overwhelmed and driven crazy with all the customers so decided to leave and not to tell anyone. I said who am I going to tell? She starts asking me questions and pulls out her translator as she can’t converse fluently. I’m in no way shape or form imagining anything with her after the fact but just thought it was interesting so I’d let her talk and see what she had to say. To hear her sales pitch. See what she offers lol...Blah, blah, blah, I ask her about her hobbies and what she likes to do. Most of these girls like tennis, golf, volleyball, running, badminton, ping pong. If you agree to do one of them with them, you’re in. They are generally bored and life is all work, no play. And will talk how back home they did this but here haven’t. So an innocent hangout as a hitting partner for an hour or so gives them whatever “escape”.

She doesn’t speak English well. I have her number, but don’t text. No use for conversation over KakaoTalk because it will lead nowhere. And really nothing to say. She really only wants a steady customer and pretend to be your friend...build cliente. Sometimes I think about seeing her, but after the urge I let the brief what would be mental lapse pass, and forget the idea...at this point I pretty much lost interest. Thought about deleting today as I talk to girls not in the business and don’t want to be tempted to seek her as her service is top notch. At the end of the day I know these girls are cunning liars looking for an economic opportunity, like any other girls but you’re probably in competition with ten plus so guys at any given time in a week. and what do I get outta it? I’m not trying to save a girl. Maybe she would make a good wife but I’m not signing up for someone with a kid and one who can’t connect with on any level whatsoever...for the record I saw her twice at the spa, and once after at the new spot, and we hung out after. She messaged me to come see her later that day, and I told her not today busy, another time...that was pretty much the end of that. I enjoyed the time with her outside, but I feel funny after to see her. Don’t exactly expect any benefits outside her work and play without play either. In all honesty, I just wanted to see if I could hang out with one and if their personality matches and this one did. And one thing is how jealous these girls are. She started questioning me random names at the massage parlor and if I seen this one and that one and I simply answered no, as I haven’t. And when I truthfully said only you, she let out a big smile, as I bet she pulls on customers to make them feel special.

For WeChat, I’d recommend posting moments so girls see your everyday life, and think of you as normal and not just a creepy customer who has a list of WeChat contacts as they do. One spa girl sent me up on WeChat. Same spa girl offers me 100k for marriage and a Porsche and then wants me to give her 3k a month to leave the spa life lol...at least she’s straight forward but it’s a “no” on the offer. I think the selling point is they know what you have to offer, living arrangements, and that’s what they want...to move in with you. They will also try to convince you to buy them a store and go in on the business. ...they will cook or have food ready to feed you, they’ll probably skip the condom for the anchor baby and tie you down. Be careful. Only those willing to hang out with you outside the spa are looking for something in return. No one wants to waste a few hours of their time on their day off, free day, unless they are gonna get paid eventually by you, because they are missing out on more customers that day or simply resting and enjoying their own time. Remember time is money. To get that free for them is almost unheard of I believe unless you kick it back by visiting them. More than half the time I doubt they just want a friend who was a former customer. It’s more like special repeat customer, that’s really it.
Tell her she can pay me 100k the Porsche and 2500 a month and she can keep working if she wants . LOL
 

6Stringer

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You are 100% on target Stinger. I came to this website from outside the mongering life. I met a girl through a friend that introduced herself to me as a skincare massage therapist. I didn’t know what that was. We dated for many months, I didn’t know where she worked exactly, but she did sleep overnight in the store which I thought was odd, and I learned the store was open very late at night. One day I picked her up and stumbled upon reviews based on the address. There was reviews about her, using the name I know she uses in America. Her description that people wrote about were accurate. The graphic details of customers visits, what happens and if a condom is used or not was heartbreaking to read. I confronted her about what I read and she was honest and said its all true. Prior, we spoke about marriage eventually. I really liked her, and after a lot of thinking, I asked her to leave the business and I will forgive her past. I earn a good living, and can provide for her well, however I can’t match the $25,000 she earns a month. In the end, her love for money and risking an unhealthy lifestyle was her love, not me. For anyone else still thinking about hookups with a provider, the sex is just about nonexistent. The only time she was not working was when she had her menstrual cycle. Additionally, sex is work and not something enjoyable outside the job. If your looking for a friend for dinner and a movie, then a provider maybe a good buddy to meet up with, but don’t expect more.
100% spot on in every aspect.....sorry man ((
 

TKA9

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You are 100% on target Stinger. I came to this website from outside the mongering life. I met a girl through a friend that introduced herself to me as a skincare massage therapist. I didn’t know what that was. We dated for many months, I didn’t know where she worked exactly, but she did sleep overnight in the store which I thought was odd, and I learned the store was open very late at night. One day I picked her up and stumbled upon reviews based on the address. There was reviews about her, using the name I know she uses in America. Her description that people wrote about were accurate. The graphic details of customers visits, what happens and if a condom is used or not was heartbreaking to read. I confronted her about what I read and she was honest and said its all true. Prior, we spoke about marriage eventually. I really liked her, and after a lot of thinking, I asked her to leave the business and I will forgive her past. I earn a good living, and can provide for her well, however I can’t match the $25,000 she earns a month. In the end, her love for money and risking an unhealthy lifestyle was her love, not me. For anyone else still thinking about hookups with a provider, the sex is just about nonexistent. The only time she was not working was when she had her menstrual cycle. Additionally, sex is work and not something enjoyable outside the job. If your looking for a friend for dinner and a movie, then a provider maybe a good buddy to meet up with, but don’t expect more.
Great advice go on a date have a blast but no marriage or falling in love.
 

twotimesone

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I agree with some of you guys about many of these providers ultimately being gold diggers, U was with my ATF about 2 weeks ago and she only cares about my secondary income in my rental income. Also, I recall that one time I saw a girl asked me where I worked, I said a hospital and the first thing the girl said if I was a doctor. Of course I said no. If the girl cares about you, she wouldn't bring up money matters with you.
 

TKA9

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I agree with some of you guys about many of these providers ultimately being gold diggers, U was with my ATF about 2 weeks ago and she only cares about my secondary income in my rental income. Also, I recall that one time I saw a girl asked me where I worked, I said a hospital and the first thing the girl said if I was a doctor. Of course I said no. If the girl cares about you, she wouldn't bring up money matters with you.
Too many opportunities to be tied down with one woman especially a provider.
 

6Stringer

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I wanted to buy my girl a nice Christmas present and we were at the mall together. She didn't seem particularly excited about anything I showed her (looking at handbags), soon I came to realize that the only ones she liked were between 2 and 4 grand. Of course, she would later buy herself the one she wanted, but it was eye opening for me. I had previously dated a different provider and remember being shocked when she ordered an 800 bag off ebay. My ex wife would never have spent more than 40-50 bucks at target on a purse....lol...believe me, these ladies can sniff out luxury brands like they were bloodhounds and they don't want anything less.....make up, bags, shoes, cars, clothes and vacations all need to be top of the line.
 

Cuckrr

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I wanted to buy my girl a nice Christmas present and we were at the mall together. She didn't seem particularly excited about anything I showed her (looking at handbags), soon I came to realize that the only ones she liked were between 2 and 4 grand. Of course, she would later buy herself the one she wanted, but it was eye opening for me. I had previously dated a different provider and remember being shocked when she ordered an 800 bag off ebay. My ex wife would never have spent more than 40-50 bucks at target on a purse....lol...believe me, these ladies can sniff out luxury brands like they were bloodhounds and they don't want anything less.....make up, bags, shoes, cars, clothes and vacations all need to be top of the line.
I would say we both dated the same person, but I think most of these girls are like this. She took me shopping for myself, at Hugo Boss, half a grand on three items. Also, besides the top brands, she always wore brand new clothing. No need for laundry.
 

Cuckrr

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During the afternoon between 2pm to 5pm, go to Americana Manhasset and most of the Asian female customers are Chinese KTV and Korean room salon girls shopping. lol.

You’ll see the Korean room salon girls with shopping bags and waiting for their Uber to go home and show them off to their friends. lol.
Yup, I’ve been the with her also. Even ate in that fancy Italian restaurant! She was very familiar with the shopping area.
 
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