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Confession?

VJLUTZ

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At this point, I try to be the best I can for myself and for the others but I have accepted myself as imperfect and fallible. While I try to not indulge too often, I know I will slip again sooner or later. So no confession, it is. I am a sinner but not a hypocrite, I guess. And I hope hell is not as bad as it sounds :)
Excellent post. That is exactly how I feel too. While I certainly do indulge, sometimes too often, I will never jettison my wife for some other honey (no matter how young, sweet or sexy). As I've said before, except for her passing on sex, my wife is otherwise a great companion. She genuinely loves me and take very good care of me. On my side, I love & take good care of her and do my utmost to conceal my activities from her. So far, I've been successful; she has never given me any hint that she knows. While its true the money I spent on mongering could be spent on her, I still spend a lot of money on her and she is very satisfied with her lifestyle.

BTW: "I am a sinner but not a hypocrite" would make a great slogan for a t-shirt or bumper sticker.
 

Jackboner

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I thought as a Catholic, sex was only for procreation. If there is no intention of having children, then you abstain.
The biblical reference of holding back on sex must be Old Testament.
 

Freddy

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This hobby, visiting providers of our choosing for the services of our liking, allows us to delve into the darkest parts of our imagination and sexual gratification played out in a session without any resistance from a favorite provider, it can have even a seasoned monger contemplating his actions, hence a need to unburden his deeds from time to time. How often have any of us been able to give a play by play account of what really happened during a session, reviews aren’t the outlet to come clean, they give limited details, I feel as though since mongers don’t typically “brag”about amp conquests, it internalizes the experiences, men by default have a natural need to “brag”, it isn’t wrong in and of itself, it’s part of the pecking order.
 

8nitsuj23

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Freddy wrapped that up so nicely.

Grateful for the private messages where it feels like locker room talk again
This site is the locker room and the amps are the court/field lol
 

VJLUTZ

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As a rebel even then, I could not handle sitting on a rock hard bench and listening to a guy dressed in medieval garb speaking a foreign language (Latin). It just seemed pointless and a waste of my time. Per the quote above my confessions were designed beforehand to minimize penance and get me the hell out of there.
Y'know, I have to say, that rings true with me too. Nearly all the time I spent in Church was out of a sense of duty. It was what I was expected to do, first as a son, then as a father. But, in all those years, I never felt like organized religion actually gave me a moving, religious experience.

The only times I actually got a religious experience (or at least something that felt like one) were from things that had zero connection to religion. And, oddly enough, that does NOT include sex. The three things that did it for me were:
1. Seeing my son born in the delivery room
2. Watching an aircraft carrier steam out of port
3. A handful of live concert performances. Two really. The Beach Boys singing "Don't Worry Baby" and Paul McCartney himself singing "Let it Be". That last one was especially moving. Tears were running down my face when he finished.

The video of John-John saluting JFK's casket also deserves an honorable mention.
 

Freddy

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Y'know, I have to say, that rings true with me too. Nearly all the time I spent in Church was out of a sense of duty. It was what I was expected to do, first as a son, then as a father. But, in all those years, I never felt like organized religion actually gave me a moving, religious experience.

The only times I actually got a religious experience (or at least something that felt like one) were from things that had zero connection to religion. And, oddly enough, that does NOT include sex. The three things that did it for me were:
1. Seeing my son born in the delivery room
2. Watching an aircraft carrier steam out of port
3. A handful of live concert performances. Two really. The Beach Boys singing "Don't Worry Baby" and Paul McCartney himself singing "Let it Be". That last one was especially moving. Tears were running down my face when he finished.

The video of John-John saluting JFK's casket also deserves an honorable mention.
Paul McCartney spoke of the motivation behind “Let it be”, he was in the process of developing this song/lyrics, his deceased mother came to him in a dream according to him, he was comforted when she said to him “let it be” Paul speaks about it on a program called Carpool Karaoke.
 

Anonajohn

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I thought as a Catholic, sex was only for procreation. If there is no intention of having children, then you abstain.
The biblical reference of holding back on sex must be Old Testament.
On the other side of the coin, I found Catholic girls that I dated that had this doctrine taught to them from young ages, whether it was some form of rebellion or curiosity about forbidden fruit, I don't know, were horny insatiable freaks in the sack.
 

njlefty

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On the other side of the coin, I found Catholic girls that I dated that had this doctrine taught to them from young ages, whether it was some form of rebellion or curiosity about forbidden fruit, I don't know, were horny insatiable freaks in the sack.
Some of the coeds I went to college with came from Catholic schools, sometimes all-girl Catholic schools. Holy mackerel, they were wild.
 

Koujiao

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With all of the comments on how visiting these ladies weighs on your soul, and realizing that no one here is forced to walk through the door by anything more than their own demands---this forum is the buyers side, how heavily this life must weigh on the aupply side. Who can they confess to and is it possible that any level of contrition can unload the weight they must confront from time to time. It seems to me that a degree in acting combined with a dose of sociopathy would be a survival skill.

And we may find that we all hold the same regrets.
 

KittyHawk

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With all of the comments on how visiting these ladies weighs on your soul, and realizing that no one here is forced to walk through the door by anything more than their own demands---this forum is the buyers side, how heavily this life must weigh on the aupply side. Who can they confess to and is it possible that any level of contrition can unload the weight they must confront from time to time. It seems to me that a degree in acting combined with a dose of sociopathy would be a survival skill.

And we may find that we all hold the same regrets.
I think that if anything can ease their minds it would be customers who are grateful and treat them with respect.
 

VJLUTZ

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I think that if anything can ease their minds it would be customers who are grateful and treat them with respect.
I think what eases their minds the most is the $$ they are earning. That is why they are doing this in the first place; the customer is just a means to that end. Often that money helps assure a certain lifestyle for their family back home. They are fulfilled to a large degree by the righteous sacrifice they are making. I think the ethos of sacrificing your own happiness for your family is deeply embedded in their culture. And, of course, some are just using it to feather their own nest in some way: to open a biz, buy a house or retire.

As far as confessing, they have their network of GFs who do the same thing they do. Members from this network may well have recruited them into the AMP lifestyle. In many ways, that is their emotional support system. That and their grateful family back home.
 

njlefty

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With all of the comments on how visiting these ladies weighs on your soul, and realizing that no one here is forced to walk through the door by anything more than their own demands---this forum is the buyers side, how heavily this life must weigh on the aupply side. Who can they confess to and is it possible that any level of contrition can unload the weight they must confront from time to time. It seems to me that a degree in acting combined with a dose of sociopathy would be a survival skill.

And we may find that we all hold the same regrets.
The one thing I do, which is not a foolproof thing, but if I see signs of someone not wishing to be doing what they are doing, I won't be a customer. This is whether I see it myself (and don't go back), or see it in reviews. There are, for example, a number of reviews where a pattern emerges.

I see a provider on a regular basis. She seems happy with her work. That's good to see.
 

KittyHawk

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I think what eases their minds the most is the $$ they are earning. That is why they are doing this in the first place; the customer is just a means to that end. Often that money helps assure a certain lifestyle for their family back home. They are fulfilled to a large degree by the righteous sacrifice they are making. I think the ethos of sacrificing your own happiness for your family is deeply embedded in their culture. And, of course, some are just using it to feather their own nest in some way: to open a biz, buy a house or retire.

As far as confessing, they have their network of GFs who do the same thing they do. Members from this network may well have recruited them into the AMP lifestyle. In many ways, that is their emotional support system. That and their grateful family back home.
All true. Money is the primary motivation. When I said that, I was mentally comparing Amp girls to big city street walkers who are abused by pimps and johns and have high rates of addiction and suicide. I think it has to help that our girls have a better clientele. I have been told by my atf more than once that she is happy.
 

Koujiao

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I agree with all of the above, and note that we are also mostly happy, but still need confession for whatever we find amiss. They must as well. That need to face reality, strip everything away, and go forward requires a method. I've admired those who have used 12 step programs to overcome their vices, they have a method to dig themselves out of whatever they face, they have met their 'darkness'.

Culturally, it is most vivid in the streets of singapore in the legal red light districts, where you will seem women from all over asia fly in on a 6 week visa and generate money for the family. It is certainly a different, more pragmatic, less guilt free mentality. Yet we can't forget how many want to get out of the business some day, own a business, not be the workhorse.
 

charliebrown

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I agree with all of the above, and note that we are also mostly happy

I would say most on this thread are happy. I have had providers tell me that most of the customers they service are unhappy.

The mental torture we exert on ourselves.
 
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