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[PorterD]

I just don't see how you can visit a SPA in DE right know and risk getting rolled up in this mess. BW was sandwiched between a vape shop and an asian store. Why would either one of them complain? You would think that the Asian store might be tied to the people who run these joints or would at least be pressured not to say anything. Plus the vape shop does not have the highest moral standards to care what is happening next door. I think LE and the DOJ know where all of these spots are and are just picking them off one or two at a time. New place will pop up and they are just going to have to move to screening. For me that is the only way I will go somewhere from now on.

That’s exactly what’s going on. They formed a “human trafficking” unit only to discover that real human trafficking was either nonexistent or impossible to prosecute. So they are targeting the low hanging fruit and punishing the people they are pretending to help. It’s an ugly game.

 

[ATLguy]

Rolled into Red Sun on Miller Rd for a quick visit this morning. Saw two State Troopers parked at the foot of the stairs. I kept going but this may be next on the hit list.

 

[ATLguy]

Rolled into Red Sun on Miller Rd for a quick visit this morning. Saw two State Troopers parked at the foot of the stairs. I kept going but this may be next on the hit list.

Drove by again, Troopers gone and no sticker on the door.

 

[xxxooz]

Drove by again, Troopers gone and no sticker on the door.[/QUOTE … they started doing this at RBS a few weeks before the raid so be careful … traffic stops on customers leaving May also follow…if stopped and questioned by DSP please post something…

 

[ATLguy]

I went to play golf instead. May try my standby at Old Capitol Trail. Not the best lookers but reliable and a good time.

 

[Cornlord]

Thanks for the update—had just thought of visiting there myself. I did take a chance and went to golden apple. For some reason I feel like that place will always be around and free from scrutiny, heh.

 

[Ppstrangler]

I've been wondering for a long time now why they consider AMPs as "human trafficking". Here is the legal definition of that term:

"The recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage, or slavery."

Is that really what's happening at these places? I find that really hard to believe. I mean, I'm sure these women are coming to America just to work at these places, but I have always viewed that relatively the same way where other foreigners that own businesses bring in their families from their home country for a while in order to make some money to take back home, etc. In other words, I think these women are doing this voluntarily in order to make more money than they otherwise could back in their home country. Not that they are being "forced" to do this.

Am I wrong? Are there any real "victims" in this situation?

How do you think they got here? On a Gray Hound bus? These women need to find a way to get a Visa to get to America, that's not an easy task in Asia.

Some women or families will take on huge amounts of debt in their home country to get a way out and make it to western countries, it's all on them to make the money to pay back debtors in the home country, debtors most likely have collateral.

Have you heard of the Vietnamese migrants found dead in the Lorry in UK? Those people paid up to 20K per head to be smuggled into the country.

You're right, maybe no one is forced to the lifestyle in these places, but it comes down to the choices people have.

Most providers I've met have multiple plots of land back in their home country.

 

[Dragonrider]

Didn’t think spas would be their primary target but it clearly is and the bottom of the article indicates their goal is to close them all.

It defies logic that a human trafficking unit is making arrests on providers; the people they claim to be helping.

I’m sorry but this just annoys me.

Same reason they want to take guns from legit citizens or require taxes and insurance. Like they jailed bookies now they run the lottery. Massage parlors are cash business. Government isn’t getting their cut like booze and now mariajuana

 

[Returnrubsoffered]

You mentioned KSQ. I didn't realize there was any left after Orchard Rd was closed.
Do you have details/location?

I would be interested in a spa in KSQ..De is getting dangerous

 

[Panty Lover]

I would be interested in a spa in KSQ..De is getting dangerous

South Jersey is another alternative. I've only visited one spa over the bridge so far but have been reading the SJ boards. Going to a concert in Vineland in a couple of weeks and hoping to hit an AMP while in the area.