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[DannyG]

I enjoy massaging my favorite provider, when she’s up for it, probably 15 minutes or so when I get the okay from her to do so and immediately when I arrive. I also tip her a bit over and above standard, my choice in part because of her great massage technique and finishing skill. I choose not to review her or the shop for obvious reasons.

 

[Ampme]

At the risk of sounding like a selfish asshole, I'm going to be a dissenting voice here. Personally, if I am going to pay the HF + tip, which is not an insignificant amount of $$, then I expect to be serviced. Not the other way around. Occasionally, I have massaged providers for short periods of time during a session, but that is the exception to the rule. There is really no way I am going to paying all that $$ to service a provider in an AMP.

A few other thoughts:
1. It's a free country, and everyone can do what they want. Especially if the truly enjoy it. This is just my opinion. Going out on a limb here, but pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
2. I appreciate that people get sick and tired of their jobs. Everybody's been there. But that's what vacations are for: to recharge and refresh.
3. If she is really unhappy in her work, she can switch jobs. There are lots of restaurants, nail salons, and home health care aid opportunities. Of course, I doubt she is going to find another job where she make as much as she does in an AMP.
4. If a girl wants to meet me outside the AMP (sans HF, tip and hour time limit), I'll be happy to service her (with massage and various other things). I'll even spring for the room and dinner.

I careless of people using the excuse of sick and tired of their jobs. More like sick and tired of hearing people post, lame excuses to be cheap.. Just tip and stop crying about money, If you can't handle tipping, go find a corner hooker.

 

[Chiparlor]

@VJLUTZ You are not a selfish asshole. It is ok to dissent and share your opinion because you are an analyst and provide findings/facts with us. You mentioned 4 points under few other thoughts were right on the spot.

@Ampme I also appreciate people getting sick and tired of their jobs because they are experiencing where I was coming from in the young days. Otherwise, we may not have highways, food, asian massages, and Uber/Lyft. This thread was not talking about cheap tip.

 

[RickeyRomance]

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[Spa1123]

A simple act such as a foot massage for a woman pampering everyone else all day can get you a friend for life.

I was 5 minutes into a session when a provider I'd been seeing for months said it was her birthday. I asked what I could do for her, and she thought for a moment and then said, "foot massage". I'd given her a lot of back/neck/arm/leg massages, but never a foot massage. She's probably not the only one for whom foot massage is near the top of the pleasures list.

 

[Waterboy]

I was 5 minutes into a session when a provider I'd been seeing for months said it was her birthday. I asked what I could do for her, and she thought for a moment and then said, "foot massage". I'd given her a lot of back/neck/arm/leg massages, but never a foot massage. She's probably not the only one for whom foot massage is near the top of the pleasures list.

And sometimes a short break and pleasant company is what the girls want.

 

[feetguy1]

Hello Everyone,
I stated that I am leaving the AMPR for known reasons and not coming back. I am aware that I am not practicing what I preach, but on this case, I am feeling the obligation for the greater good of my AMPR fraternity to share on this site on needed basis. Some of you may know this. Some of you may not know this. I am aware that some of you customers including parlor managers and/or providers reading this may not like it. I ask with respect to consider this as an education to protect your green papers/plastic cards and emotions. Please remember YMMV stands in our daily lives whether you receive a relaxing massage at a parlor or purchase a Lamborghini (services and prices may differ). I would like to continue recognizing Abraham Lincoln, Benjamin Franklin, Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson for being very, very positive and supportive!

Before I proceed, I deported the lady out of state within 48 hours of a relationship. However, I was pleased to have additional ladies in line rebounding from the first lady to the second lady. So far, we are doing good and we will see how things will go down the road. As some of you know how deep I have been with some parlors and providers before I turned a new chapter of my life.

I do not remember which thread @VJLUTZ mentioned, but I recalled one of his comment stating that his source said ALL Chinese providers are either married or in relationship with American men. VJ, correct me if I am wrong. I can read my thread under Boardwide General Topics without signing in on the AMPR and can read your comments, if any. I will not respond on that thread if some of you have any questions. Some of you have my e-mail address and I will respond on emails.

It has been ten days and I am still getting deeper learning more about the Asian network. It is a very powerful network and frankly I have been enjoying different culture network. I witnessed seven Chinese providers are married to American men and all 7 couples own massage parlors as far as I know. I am optimistic that I will be seeing more of that in the future as we increase our network base.

With the above said, as I said to consider this as an education and awareness, I recommend customers not to waste their time with providers who have green cards because they will, in most cases as I have witnessed, will not leave their husbands and/or significant others. They will provide services as long as there is demand and tell you to come back for massage. Do not waste your time with high expectations to date or take out providers with green cards. Their husbands and/or significant others knows what they are doing in parlors as long as they bring in bucks. In other words, she has an American for green card and he has her for bi-fold doors (win-win for both sides). Be cautious is all I am asking to protect your heart.

Now, for those providers who are here under Work Permit are doing everything they could to hook a US citizen for their personal gain praying for green card as long as she has clean record to be eligible depending on case by case basis. You can waste your time with her and may be in luck because most of them would rather stay in this country due to freedom among other things. Should you choose to marry her, she will be eligible for green card and may shoot you in a garbage can after she has green card in her possession.

There is a lot more to share. We have been, I am sorry to say this from what I have witnessed and confirmed with managers and/or owners, promoting age discrimination in massage parlors because customers prefer younger providers. That explained why I was perplexed seeing most older providers on 40th Street during my week stay in that state. I have been itching to reveal a legit provider who has been taking advantage of her customers, but was advised by Theodore Roosevelt to keep my mouth shut allowing her to work to support herself and her family. Continue doing what you enjoy with awareness and as boxing referees always say before the start of the boxing game, “Protect Yourself At All Times.”

Finally, I am working on a project that may benefit both parlors/providers and customers. The parlor managers/providers who know me very well is aware of my project I am working on. I also want to thank Woodrow Wilson for additional support to proceed my project separately from the above. It is on the fence right now and we will see what will happen at the end of July or anytime in August.

Very interesting editorial. Thank you for your insight.

 

[feetguy1]

Well, I’ll just go on the record as disagreeing that all providers are married to American men. I know many many girls who aren’t. It runs the spectrum you’d expect. Some still married in China. Many divorced, probably the largest block I know. A few married to Americans. Many of them would divorce if they could. Some complete sham marriages. Some never married (the smallest number). In short, not much different.

I’m just saying this because I think if you have a mutual attraction with a provider you should pursue it, not just write her off, because someone says they’re all married and faking it.

But I’m not going to argue. It’s just my observation of 10-15 years and meeting and chatting with hundreds of girls.

Interesting point. Very interesting read on this thread seeing different point of views on this subject of providers and affections.

 

[feetguy1]

Chi - I'm not sure I fully understand your post or it's purpose...

but I can tell you that amp girls do sometimes get married successfully to American men. I married a provided over 10 years ago. We had children and are still together. Ups and downs like any marriage, but it was not a "green card and run" marriage.

We also are good friends with another couple that have a similar story and are married slightly longer than us.

There are also stories of arranged green card marriages, but they are usually well established at the beginning of the relationship... and often compensated for.

I'm glad to know you have a successful marriage and family. More power to you.

 

[feetguy1]

If you are not interested to read a novel, do not read below and move on.
@Waterboy thanks
@charliebrown honeymoon varies
@kgmspa I am not in pain.
@TGBeldin Thanks
@Srhsrh Thanks for sharing your observation and I am also sharing my observation.
@Koujiao I am fully prepared for them to walk away with everything I had/have when they leave because I had a detailed Cohabitation Agreement in place.
@East Lake II I may have my eyes crossed because I remembered reading a thread stating “all” and I witnessed myself 100% so far (7 out of 7)
@East Lake II Yes, applies to all providers up and down the chain
@marauder1969 I apologize for the confusion. Congrats to your marriage
@Spa1123 Like I said earlier I read the term “all” and I apologize for that
@Ampme I am more than happy to stop mongering and write novels because I have access to Chinese vagina 24/7 and will earn bucks from the novels whereas you will spend $ on providers
@VJLUTZ I apologize for misunderstanding.
@Srhsrh you are correct behind the scenes were/are very messy
@DannyG You are correct and I came back to share some of my experience to save some of you from being hurt. It was my mistake doing that.
@Ampme Yes it a marketing tool because I will write a novel titled “Ampme”
@DannyG I had a pissing contest with a married provider this morning and I cleaned it up (Benjamin Franklin is aware of it and does not know the name of the provider).
@dotcom GREEN exactly
@Koujiao Thank you. As I said earlier I was sharing my perspective.
@Srhsrh your comment #48: I am not worried because, again, detailed Cohabitation Agreement is in place. Theodore Roosevelt read it and asked for permission to borrow my agreement. Sure! He has it incase he need it if he has a woman with him.
@Waterboy Thanks
@DannyG We all live and learn
@Ampme Since when any relationship must last less than 48 hours? Since when any relationship must last more than a week? Since when any relationship must last 12 months? I deported her because she was handling illegal substances and controlling in MY residence and in violation of our Cohabitation Agreement.
@charliebrown Thank you

I would like to correct myself. I mentioned that I am working on a project that WILL benefit both providers and mongers. Repeating with correction: I am working on a project that MAY benefit both providers and mongers.

My current so disagreed with me for leaving this site because I made the solo decision. I see where she is coming from. She said continue doing what I have been doing in life minus mongering fs providers. She is right because we were invited to a fs parlor two days ago to celebrate a birthday party for a provider. The fs parlor closed its doors early for birthday celebration. We enjoyed the birthday party!

FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION:
Have you EVER went to any parlors, non-erotic and/or erotic, and provide a strictly therapeutic massage for one full hour to a provider WITHOUT touching her privates (milking her breasts, sucking her breasts, rubbing her breasts, fingering her vagina and etc) and paid for the full hour massage and reasonable tip to a provider?
I have done that several times for the last 3 months because I heard a provider saying back in late March or early April:
Tired
Very Tired
Very Very Tired
I REALLY want this to stop.
I asked her what she meant by that. She said she was very tired of keeping everything inside herself and serve customers to satisfy their needs. I stopped her from massaging me, put clothes on, and told her to lay down. I provided strictly therapeutic massage to help her feel better in 30 minutes. Her attitude changed instantly. She admitted she needed strictly therapeutic massage for the full hour sometimes. We came to an agreement that she is free to tell me “Hey, I need massage” and I go over in a heartbeat. I did that to her 7 times so far. Now that I am in a relationship, my so said to continue doing what I am doing because both my so and provider speak fluently in Chinese in the massage room while I am working and learning Chinese day by day.

"Have you EVER went to any parlors, non-erotic and/or erotic, and provide a strictly therapeutic massage for one full hour to a provider WITHOUT touching her privates (milking her breasts, sucking her breasts, rubbing her breasts, fingering her vagina and etc) and paid for the full hour massage and reasonable tip to a provider?"

I always go to a massage spa without touching her privates. I get a great massage, paid the cost and tip her for a massage well done. We find it very satisfying.

"I provided strictly therapeutic massage to help her feel better....."

This is so true. I love getting a back walking massage. I always prepare her legs, ankles and feet with a semi-deep tissue massage before she walks on my back. Being a foot fetishist, I throw in some foot worship to show my appreciation for her. Sometimes, I would massage her back since she works all day standing up during massage sessions. I must say she felt very relieved getting a massage from me. I love it when she smiles every time I visit her. Her smile makes me feel very good.

 

[Chiparlor]

Thank you feetguy for confirming and doing what I did. IMO, the best method for both of us (provider and myself).

 

[feetguy1]

A simple act such as a foot massage for a woman pampering everyone else all day can get you a friend for life.

This is so true. I love getting a back walking massage. I always prepare her legs, ankles and feet with a semi-deep tissue massage before she walks on my back. Being a foot fetishist, I throw in some foot worship to show my appreciation for her. She's my friend for life.

 

[RickeyRomance]

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[Chiparlor]

I made a comment somewhere on this site that we may see some changes for both mongers and providers either last month or this month. It is not much, but it is a start. I sent letters with inquiries, points, and objections to 14 different agencies and organizations about providers' civil right violations in terms of not providing reasonable accommodation (ethnic translators) to the arrested/charged providers during arrests, bookings, arraignments and so on. We were in downtown today for my so to handle her business while I handle my business in the same area. I was asked to meet with 6 different government agencies and attorneys about it, which I did today. It all boils down from the government officials saying that "They are doing their job" regardless of reasonable accommodations. I had to point out that the warrant request and actual warrant served usually have some time gaps like TJBeldin said "Plan Search Execute" and they KNEW most of the Asian providers have limited and/or no English skills to communicate with the government during the arrest-court process. I questioned why reasonable accommodation were not in place under the 1973 Voc Rehab Act and Amer with Disab Act (ADA) during the judicial process. At the conclusion, one of the Attorney submitted Petition to revisit the case. The Judge accepted the Petition. IF IF IF my Advocate came out in "my" favor, "Have Advocate-Education, Will Travel" I will be f***ing sure to travel and educate those dummies in this State!

 

[Chiparlor]

I do not have to disclose this information. I wanted to share for your awareness. I had to deliver the so to Amtrak this morning because she has been very addicted to gambling for about a week or so. She admitted that massage is very tiring and wanted to gamble hoping to earn "$100 per day" every day. As usual, the house has been winning when we bench-marked the actual expenses versus winnings ending up deep and deeper in red. Suggested she try another job such as restaurant or nail salon. Her complaint was that both industries do not pay well. Not going to argue further with her. Her work permit is good until November of this year. If she is eligible for an extension, fabulous. If not, she will have to go home. Cohabitation Agreement is not just a blessing, but a GREAT blessing to protect myself and my assets. Different beliefs and customs into a relationship from my perspective has been challenging and learning experience.

 

[Wayne1250]

It sucks for you friend. Gambling is the ruin of many of these girls, keeps them chained to their spa life.

 

[East Lake II]

I do not have to disclose this information. I wanted to share for your awareness. I had to deliver the so to Amtrak this morning because she has been very addicted to gambling for about a week or so. She admitted that massage is very tiring and wanted to gamble hoping to earn "$100 per day" every day. As usual, the house has been winning when we bench-marked the actual expenses versus winnings ending up deep and deeper in red. Suggested she try another job such as restaurant or nail salon. Her complaint was that both industries do not pay well. Not going to argue further with her. Her work permit is good until November of this year. If she is eligible for an extension, fabulous. If not, she will have to go home. Cohabitation Agreement is not just a blessing, but a GREAT blessing to protect myself and my assets. Different beliefs and customs into a relationship from my perspective has been challenging and learning experience.

Thanks for sharing. It’s difficult to quit gambling, even more so when viewed as a job replacement. Hope she gets some help.

I’m sure you are being more than generous when saying it was a challenging and learning experience.

 

[Freddy]

She will need to be currently employed to extend her permit?

 

[Chiparlor]

@East Lake II Yes Still generous as you read
@Freddy Yes It will be a challenge for her

 

[BillaBong]

FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION:
Have you EVER went to any parlors, non-erotic and/or erotic, and provide a strictly therapeutic massage for one full hour to a provider WITHOUT touching her privates (milking her breasts, sucking her breasts, rubbing her breasts, fingering her vagina and etc) and paid for the full hour massage and reasonable tip to a provider?
I have done that several times for the last 3 months because I heard a provider saying back in late March or early April:
Tired
Very Tired
Very Very Tired
I REALLY want this to stop.
I asked her what she meant by that. She said she was very tired of keeping everything inside herself and serve customers to satisfy their needs..

It is a very good thing to consider the girls feelings, however I dont think giving them an hours massage will make anything much better. Thats our need not thers. I have gone through difficult times almost twice in every decade and first thing on my mind was either getting a green card, getting a job, making enough money etc. In bad times, bodily pleasure is the last thing on your mind. And honestly, each of our visit is making her happy.
A few days ago, I parked my car and was about to get out when I was called from work to attend an urgent issue. At the same time, I saw one of the providers see me leave and she looked disappointed to lose a customer (not happy that she doesnt have to work!)