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Blood on the street II

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Nutleypo

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I think we're doomed. I was reading thoroughly this morning about this virus and how it mutates and replicates. Also how strange it can act inside a body without any predictability. Scientists cannot even get a baseline for understanding the disparate effects in each person, healthy or unhealthy.

Not good.
Screw tv news and articles! I have 3 friends who are improving after catching the virus. They all have health issues such as high blood pressure and being overweight, Two in their late 50s stayed home the whole time and one in his late 60s was in the hospital for a bit and is doing better as well. Very sad for the low percentage of those who die but it is a low percentage and contested places like NYC will feel the brunt of it but this isnt the apocalypse.
 

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In case you missed it, yesterday, Federal Agents arrested Dr. Charles Lieber, chair of Harvard University's Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, with lying to the Department of Defense about secret monthly payments of $50,000.00 paid by China and receipt of millions more to help set up a chemical/biological “Research” laboratory in China. Also arrested were two Chinese “Students” working as research assistants, one of whom was actually a lieutenant in the Chinese Army, the other captured at Logan Airport as he tried to catch a flight to China - smuggling 21 vials of “Sensitive Biological Samples” according to the FBI.
Oh, almost forgot. The research lab the good professor had helped set up? It’s located at the Wuhan University of Technology. Wuhan China is ground zero to the potentially global pandemic known as the “Coronavirus”which is both spreading rapidly and killing people.
This is Stephen Coonts international spy novel stuff happening in real life - and it has barely made the news.
1) He was charged back in Jan. 28th, and it was in the news. 2) He deserves to go jail.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harv...ationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/no-link-between-harvard-scientist-charles-lieber-and-coronavirus/
 

njlefty

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Screw tv news and articles! I have 3 friends who are improving after catching the virus. They all have health issues such as high blood pressure and being overweight, Two in their late 50s stayed home the whole time and one in his late 60s was in the hospital for a bit and is doing better as well. Very sad for the low percentage of those who die but it is a low percentage and contested places like NYC will feel the brunt of it but this isnt the apocalypse.
Hope you're right.

I see the Dow dropping 5k tomorrow.

Hope I'm wrong.
 

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Article in the Los Angeles Times. It is an interview with two doctors. I don't feel like looking at it again. But you should be able to easily find and read.[/QUOTE

i found a 2 doctor interview
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-04/why-coronavirus-kills-some-people-and-not-others
it doesn’t talk about the virus mutating Though. I haven’t heard any discussion about mutations for weeks now so that part is interesting to find.

The sense I get from doctors up here yesterday is that
1. this is solvable.
2. the next month is going to be horrible because of all the shortages. People are going to die that would recover if the beds, meds, and ventilators were available. I haven’t seen numbers on how the city is doing, but here in my small backwoods area, there’s virtually nothing available right now, and the feds aren’t releasing their stash.
3. the 18-30 year old group is a huge problem for spreading this because they aren’t treating this disease respectfully. They are getting it and spreading it back to home, or via their jobs.
4. because of them, the earliest restrictions could lift is July.
5. things like sporting events, conventions, etc are gone until there’s a vaccine. So NFL will likely be players only in stadium, baseball is probably gone for this year.
6. there’s going to be a huge surge of PTSD in medical staff because of all the deaths and shortages, which will lead to a loss of the best medical folks leaving the business.
7. some sort of vaccine will be approved by the fall. Theres many vaccine candidates, the thinking is someone will pick one or two and push them forward before the election. The question is will it work. Nobody knows at this point.

so I’d say don’t get depressed, suck it up, yell at your kids, and start thinking about which girl you’ll see first in July.
 

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I think we're doomed. I was reading thoroughly this morning about this virus and how it mutates and replicates. Also how strange it can act inside a body without any predictability. Scientists cannot even get a baseline for understanding the disparate effects in each person, healthy or unhealthy.

Not good.
All viruses mutate. Next wave comes through some will be immune to it. We will be fine. It's just now you have to worry about. The Spanish Flu was disastrous but people were able to tolerate that same flu a yr later. Due to immunity.

What you dont want is the second wave to be a stronger and more deadly corona virus on the second wave. That is possible. Hopefully the chances of that are virtually nil.
 

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Interesting. Not a well known news source, but the article is based on a March 30th Imperial College (UK) study.

Again, this is an estimate of the final CV-19 mortality rate. It does not address the current & considerable burden on the health care system.

https://www.libertynation.com/coronavirus-more-widespread-less-deadly-than-claimed/

the numbers I trust most right now are from South Korea. The reason why, is because they have the most extensive testing along with having a decent amount of initial exposure.
China's numbers are not really trustworthy, as has been discussed ad nauseum. China also did very little testing. Ours are also bad, because of limited access to tests, and overhwhelmed healthcare which is driving our mortality higher than it could be. Its also hitting nursing homes here hard, which is being completely under-reported.

SK healthcare is better than ours, has not been stressed, and testing is free and readily available. Europe is a mess.

So i think that the SK detect more cases, treat people more effectively, and they have a pretty honest system.

here's their numbers on an english site. Its accurate with the Korean internal numbers:

https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=&bid=0030

10,237 cases
6,463 recovered
3,591 still in isolation
183 deaths

I'm not sure which way to calculate mortality. deaths/recovered or deaths/cases.

one way it is 2.7%. the other way is 1.7%.

I dont really believe in theoretical numbers of who might be infected. I know thats how they calculate flu, but I think this is too new. In any case, it isnt science. Once they start pulling random 100's of people in and testing them we will know that alot better.
 

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Why do some people always have to compare our own government to the totalitarian nightmare that is the Chinese government without the slightest note of distinction?

I get tired of hearing us compared to one of the worst human rights abusers on the planet, as if the 2 countries' governments are even in the same moral galaxy.

Like no effort to put things into perspective is even attempted.

Well, the US and China governments both lie, therefore they are both the same--- ya can't trust 'em!

There's no difference I guess between a representative democracy and a totalitarian dictatorshit with a president for life-- who if you say the wrong thing you could be jailed for life or have your organs harvested.
 

Srhsrh

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Why do some people always have to compare our own government to the totalitarian nightmare that is the Chinese government without the slightest note of distinction?

I get tired of hearing us compared to one of the worst human rights abusers on the planet, as if the 2 countries' governments are even in the same moral galaxy.

Like no effort to put things into perspective is even attempted.

Well, the US and China governments both lie, therefore they are both the same--- ya can't trust 'em!

There's no difference I guess between a representative democracy and a totalitarian dictatorshit with a president for life-- who if you say the wrong thing you could be jailed for life or have your organs harvested.
Not sure who said that, it wasnt me.

Why are you always attacking people?

If you have something to add to the conversation, add it.
 

njlefty

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Get ready for the second wave because here it comes....

Large numbers of people flocked to popular tourists sites and major cities across China over the country's holiday weekend, despite warnings from health authorities that the risk posed by the coronavirus pandemic remains far from over.
 

VJLUTZ

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New Jersey has always been a shithole.
“New Jersey. If there’s anyone more purely foolish than a New Yorker, it’s a fellow from New Jersey.”
― Stephen King, 'Salem's Lot

In all fairness though, outside of a few areas (Newark--or anything in NJ within a 15 mile radius of NYC, Camden, Trenton), NJ ain't bad at all. The Northwestern quadrant of NJ is actually pretty damn nice, especially along the Delaware river. Too bad the property taxes are so fuking high.
 

njlefty

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“New Jersey. If there’s anyone more purely foolish than a New Yorker, it’s a fellow from New Jersey.”
― Stephen King, 'Salem's Lot

In all fairness though, outside of a few areas (Newark--or anything in NJ within a 15 mile radius of NYC, Camden, Trenton), NJ ain't bad at all. The Northwestern quadrant of NJ is actually pretty damn nice, especially along the Delaware river. Too bad the property taxes are so fuking high.
I spent the winter in North Carolina.

More beautiful and varied than anything New Jersey can offer.

At a lot less cost, too.
 
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