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Review: 465 - Candy

lowkeya

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They need to have a criteria checklist when bringing in new providers. Are you willing to do A, B & C? Ok, are you any good at it? This place is washed up. Tina probably stays because she knows the reputation of DDD is still out there. How long is that gonna last with reviews like this?
you do know probably 75% of the girls are trafficked. And the "handlers" hold their passport until they "pay back what they owe"
 

Wayne1250

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A very cinical perspective. Many of these girls work in the profession in their home country. Once in their 30's they are deemed too old and second rate there. That's when they come to this country to work. Generalizations are hard to prove.
 

lowkeya

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A very cinical perspective. Many of these girls work in the profession in their home country. Once in their 30's they are deemed too old and second rate there. That's when they come to this country to work. Generalizations are hard to prove.
not cinical its called research. and yes your statement is also true. I did say though that a very small % do this willingly
 

charliebrown

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not cinical its called research. and yes your statement is also true. I did say though that a very small % do this willingly
Most of the provider I personally know do it for the money. They are beholdened to their children/families and will do anything and everything for their families. Just performing legitimate massages is better money than nails/restaurant. When they throw the HE ending in, they are making very good money. Some continue down the menu to extend their earing even more. If they are good and in a busy shop, they can be raking in 1K for each day of work. 10K. Slow up the pace a bit and they are still making 500 a day TAX FREE.

Do the conversion to Yuan and these women are making their families very comfortable back home.

I will agree with you that most would not do this if the money was not there. I have met women who were deceived by other spa workers who regularly go back into their home countries to recruit women. They are not told how all of the money is made and many of them feel deceived and stupid for falling for the scam. It has been rare but when it happens, I can tell and I tip them well and just leave.
 

lowkeya

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wondering if you know they are trafficked, Do you have any different reaction about getting their service?
the reason i even brought it up is because i keep reading post from members saying (oh im going to tell the mamasa). (these girls need to be happy) (why are these girls so miserable) (why is she not into it). Its simple some if not most are trafficked, or forced by debt. I personally try to use the woman who are seasoned or ask me if i want their service. i never ask. I try to determine the seasoned ones by intel here. Previous to my research in 2015 when all the spas were getting busted i didn't know better. When they did the raids after 2015 is when i started researching why the spas were getting busted like da da da, blue moon, and stress relief.. Thats how i know about the trafficked girls coming out of flushing.
 

lowkeya

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Most of the provider I personally know do it for the money. They are beholdened to their children/families and will do anything and everything for their families. Just performing legitimate massages is better money than nails/restaurant. When they throw the HE ending in, they are making very good money. Some continue down the menu to extend their earing even more. If they are good and in a busy shop, they can be raking in 1K for each day of work. 10K. Slow up the pace a bit and they are still making 500 a day TAX FREE.

Do the conversion to Yuan and these women are making their families very comfortable back home.

I will agree with you that most would not do this if the money was not there. I have met women who were deceived by other spa workers who regularly go back into their home countries to recruit women. They are not told how all of the money is made and many of them feel deceived and stupid for falling for the scam. It has been rare but when it happens, I can tell and I tip them well and just leave.
yeah most are promised waitress jobs, modeling jobs if young and maid jobs if older, but once they get here it str8 to the spa
 

PhillyJimi

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you do know probably 75% of the girls are trafficked. And the "handlers" hold their passport until they "pay back what they owe"
About 10 years ago, I got to know one lady outside the spa. I also got to know her working friends. It wasn't a nonstop porno, far from it. In a way I was their Uber driver before Uber really was a thing. Hate to bust your fantasy bubble. Yes I got some but it wasn't what most of you guys think, also you better like Korean food.

I am yet to meet a single Korean lady who has been trafficked, the way it is described in the news. Yes, they can pay big buck to get into the country, usually because the princess wants a 1st class tickets. They pay their own way. 95% did this work back in Korea. The issue is when they get into their 30's they are way too old back in Korea. America and the UK are the next best bets. When they are in their 30's they work in the big cities. As they get older they move to the burbs. If they stay in the industry, most want to own their own shop at some time. The smart ones are here to make a 7 figure bank roll to retire in their 50's back to Korea. It is rare but a few are really smart about this.

I have found way too many piss away their money at the casinos. On stupid designer handbags and expensive watches. A lot spend really big bucks on plastic surgery and plenty of money on getting their hair done. A few get into the party scene and spend massive amounts of money on coke. Unless I am insane, trafficked women are NOT blowing $5,000 on a weekend in AC. Walking around with $7,000 watches. If someone pisses them off in a shop, they will walk out the door at a moments notice. Not saying they like their job but, who really likes their job if they aren't getting pay well. If she is popular she can move to any major city and get a new job within a week. Taking a 3-4 week vacation isn't a problem. Then there is April 15th, they didn't seem to be too stressed out.

What you'll find is the smart and professional ladies will travel to work at the busy shops. They fight to get into them. The very opposite of being trafficked. I am not saying it is a media lie but for a lazy media it just is a quick and easy story that grabs headlines.
 

lowkeya

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About 10 years ago, I got to know one lady outside the spa. I also got to know her working friends. It wasn't a nonstop porno, far from it. In a way I was their Uber driver before Uber really was a thing. Hate to bust your fantasy bubble. Yes I got some but it wasn't what most of you guys think, also you better like Korean food.

I am yet to meet a single Korean lady who has been trafficked, the way it is described in the news. Yes, they can pay big buck to get into the country, usually because the princess wants a 1st class tickets. They pay their own way. 95% did this work back in Korea. The issue is when they get into their 30's they are way too old back in Korea. America and the UK are the next best bets. When they are in their 30's they work in the big cities. As they get older they move to the burbs. If they stay in the industry, most want to own their own shop at some time. The smart ones are here to make a 7 figure bank roll to retire in their 50's back to Korea. It is rare but a few are really smart about this.

I have found way too many piss away their money at the casinos. On stupid designer handbags and expensive watches. A lot spend really big bucks on plastic surgery and plenty of money on getting their hair done. A few get into the party scene and spend massive amounts of money on coke. Unless I am insane, trafficked women are NOT blowing $5,000 on a weekend in AC. Walking around with $7,000 watches. If someone pisses them off in a shop, they will walk out the door at a moments notice. Not saying they like their job but, who really likes their job if they aren't getting pay well. If she is popular she can move to any major city and get a new job within a week. Taking a 3-4 week vacation isn't a problem. Then there is April 15th, they didn't seem to be too stressed out.

What you'll find is the smart and professional ladies will travel to work at the busy shops. They fight to get into them. The very opposite of being trafficked. I am not saying it is a media lie but for a lazy media it just is a quick and easy story that grabs headlines.
thats one side of the industry yes you are correct, then there is the other side that i am speaking of
 

ajlcl22

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you do know probably 75% of the girls are trafficked. And the "handlers" hold their passport until they "pay back what they owe"
I'm aware that human trafficking still exists in 2021 and don't doubt that girls are forced or coerced into this line of work. But my comment was made with only 465 in mind, and it's never had that trafficking vibe to me. But I understand that's just my personal feeling based on my fairly limited experiences there and without knowing the history and story of the place.
 
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