Under 40 K-Gals in Manhattan???

West 23rd · Feb 4, 2021

I've been visiting AMPs on and off since the mid-1980's and until the early 2000's, Korean-staffed (and owned) incall and outcall places in Manhattan were the norm. Chinese gals seem to dominate the midtown market generally, both for gals over 40 and under. The last time I saw a K-gal under 40 in a Manhattan AMP was around 2009. Don't get me wrong, there are still some very attractive K-gals doing their thing currently, but let's face it...they are ALL over 40 and many are obviously in their 50's. There are many Chinese 26-35 yr. old hotties out there -- praise Zeus!! However, I still have that thang specifically for K-gals and I miss those 28-35 (for real) gals as they were not jaded professionals.

I get the sense that one has to travel to NNJ, particularly to Ft. Lee or Palisades Park to visit the younger talent locally or perhaps a small house or two in Flushing, Bayside or Fresh Meadows. Particularly interested in hearing from our Korean/East Asian brothers out there as you guys are generally better at judging the true age of Asian women than us other guys.

bigbangboom · Feb 4, 2021

Youre talking full korean, not chinese-korean.
Theres a few under 40.
Under 30? pretty rare.

mccovey · Feb 4, 2021

West 23rd said:

I've been visiting AMPs on and off since the mid-1980's and until the early 2000's, Korean-staffed (and owned) incall and outcall places in Manhattan were the norm. Chinese gals seem to dominate the midtown market generally, both for gals over 40 and under. The last time I saw a K-gal under 40 in a Manhattan AMP was around 2009. Don't get me wrong, there are still some very attractive K-gals doing their thing currently, but let's face it...they are ALL over 40 and many are obviously in their 50's. There are many Chinese 26-35 yr. old hotties out there -- praise Zeus!! However, I still have that thang specifically for K-gals and I miss those 28-35 (for real) gals as they were not jaded professionals.

I get the sense that one has to travel to NNJ, particularly to Ft. Lee or Palisades Park to visit the younger talent locally or perhaps a small house or two in Flushing, Bayside or Fresh Meadows. Particularly interested in hearing from our Korean/East Asian brothers out there as you guys are generally better at judging the true age of Asian women than us other guys.

In mid to late 80s , do you remember the Oriental Spa on west 23rd ? Great place !! I was in love with Yumi there and her friend Jennifer . They would be about 60 now ..they were from Santa Monica if I remember

didi88 · Feb 4, 2021

Momo at nycvipspot is in the age group you’re interested in

Shonuff · Feb 4, 2021

PH Hannah, Tori and MIchelle might be late 30s...
Grace's Rose
AL Yuna and Hara

^ I don't think any of these are 40...maybe michelle

sarge · Feb 4, 2021

Ha. All the 20 somehing Korean girls I know were from the 2000's and are in their 40s now and some are STILL working. Kinda like old college girlfriends cause you can still visualize them as they used to look so its all good.

Hakk · Feb 4, 2021

there are prob 2, maybe 3 at most...varying degrees of cost

West 23rd · Feb 4, 2021

bigbangboom said:

Yes, I'm talking about full Korean. In my experience, for about the last 10 years, any K-gals out there are all 40+. True, most are pretty hot MILF's but nonetheless, on the older side.

West 23rd · Feb 4, 2021

Shonuff said:

I've seen both Tori and Michelle. Both are well over 40. Don't get me wrong, quite attractive and their respective services are great but definitely no way they are late 30's. In fairness, I have not seen Hannah but I suspect that she's likely over 40 too. I do plan on seeing Hannah though. I'll probably check out the other gals you mentioned

A few things to consider:

1. few if any gals in their 20's-30's from Korea are going to come to NYC to work in an AMP and be able to speak English reasonably well. Even if that 20-something gal is a "reverse" sex tourist, she's not going to work in a standard AMP;

2. most of the gals working in the "Korean Health Clubs" as they were known back in the 1980's and early 1990's were staffed by GI-brides/ex-wives were in fact in their mid-to-late 20's; the batch of gals who came in the late 90's/early 2000's were not and tended to come because of more personal reasons and were in their early 30's; if any of these gals are still working the AMP circuit, they are obviously in their late 40's/50's

3. there were MAJOR multi-city raids in August 2006 -- affected the entire eastern seaboard, including a lot of the snake heads;

4. take a look at any media reports or actual indictments involving AMP raids, particularly Korean ones --- the YOUNGEST that you will see is late 30's

Shonuff · Feb 4, 2021

West 23rd said:

LOL, you need to go to Lenscrafters

PS you listed Tori as "Age Estimate: 38-42 " in your review, not sure how that qualifies as "well over 40"

Uniquelyme · Feb 4, 2021

West 23rd said:

I've seen both Tori and Michelle. Both are well over 40. Don't get me wrong, quite attractive and their respective services are great but definitely no way they are late 30's. In fairness, I have not seen Hannah but I suspect that she's likely over 40 too. I do plan on seeing Hannah though. I'll probably check out the other gals you mentioned

A few things to consider:

1. few if any gals in their 20's-30's from Korea are going to come to NYC to work in an AMP and be able to speak English reasonably well. Even if that 20-something gal is a "reverse" sex tourist, she's not going to work in a standard AMP;

2. most of the gals working in the "Korean Health Clubs" as they were known back in the 1980's and early 1990's were staffed by GI-brides/ex-wives were in fact in their mid-to-late 20's; the batch of gals who came in the late 90's/early 2000's were not and tended to come because of more personal reasons and were in their early 30's; if any of these gals are still working the AMP circuit, they are obviously in their late 40's/50's

3. there were MAJOR multi-city raids in August 2006 -- affected the entire eastern seaboard, including a lot of the snake heads;

4. take a look at any media reports or actual indictments involving AMP raids, particularly Korean ones --- the YOUNGEST that you will see is late 30's

Momo is definitely late 20's. From all intel read. Give her a go.

West 23rd · Feb 4, 2021

mccovey said:

The place that I remember on 23rd Street back then was called "Miyako." I remember a place called Spa Oriental that was on West 29th Street. Those were the days: everything was uncovered; complimentary booze; sauna; table shower and often real beds too. A real treat and I never paid more than $120 total. I have a K-gal friend who came here in 1990; I met her as a mamasan in 2008. We've talked about those days a bit and she remembered Gold on 5th, just north or south of the ESB, I forget. But yeah, if any of those gals are still around, they are likely either mamasans or places like Choi's.

Uniquelyme · Feb 4, 2021

Shonuff said:

I've seen Tori. While I put her 36 and maybe now is 37. I wouldn't be shocked if she's over 40.

Most people greatly underestimate age. On purpose or just can't gauge well is up for debate.

West 23rd · Feb 4, 2021

Shonuff said:

No, my friend...I've been AMPing since the 1980's. I've lived with two K-gals in the past in the business and have a couple of close friends in the biz and I have an ex who worked from 2001-2005 that I'm still in touch with. I know how K-gals age -- generally quite well.

When I say "well over 40," I mean by at least a year. I included the lower age because I grant that Tori is likely in her early 40's.

I guarantee you...Tori is at least in her 40's. Her English is quite good -- no "he" when she means "she" or visa-versa. As well, as no other common "Kor-lish" speaking issues. She's been in the US (or some other English speaking country) for at least 10 years. Most of the K-gals who came after say 1995, skewed around 30.

I'm telling you. Pull any cases involving any prosecutions involving AMPs in the last 10 years, take a look at the ages --- no 20-somethings; rarely any 30-somethings and most in their 40's - 50's

Again

West 23rd · Feb 4, 2021

Uniquelyme said:

A general rule of thumb is if the website states an age, add 3-5 years minimum. Even with the 20-somethings, the sites will lower the age from the reality.

Starting in 2016, I was dating a Chinese gal from the now folded Asian Sensation for about 2 years -- she was one of the early gals from LA and now is no longer in the country. She was a month short of 29 when we started dating even though she was listed as 24 on the website.

West 23rd · Feb 4, 2021

Hakk said:

Please, do tell. Love to get contact info...

nycdude · Feb 4, 2021

Momo at nycvip is definitely under 40.
Yuna, Choco and Cherry at Asian Lassies are older than Momo, but I estimate are still under 40.

BigUp · Feb 4, 2021

West 23rd said:

The last time I saw a K-gal under 40 in a Manhattan AMP was around 2009.

이 회장님 · Feb 4, 2021

Many K girls under the age of 35 are working in room salons. There’s one in Manhattan called “Judy’s”. It’s located one block away from Koreatown (32nd Street).

I don’t know where the young Korean amp providers are. I’ve checked the underground Korean newspaper and there’s nothing.

Donkey37 · Feb 4, 2021

이 회장님 said:

Exactly. AMPs are where Korean sex workers go to extend their careers. If you are young and pretty K girl in the states, you work in room salons mostly because you make just as much money (or a lot more) and you don't have to suck a dick unless you want to. If you do have sex, you typically get a lot more money than you would at an AMP. At least that's been my experience here. It's not like an AMP where the girl has to service whoever walks in the door.

I would guess that the older K girls here are former room salon girls who can no longer compete with the younger girls and need the money.

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